who poisoned henriette in versailles show

The Henriette thing is just one more on the heaping pile of shit. BRILLIANT acting. First of all, ladies, stop spewing vitriol. The two are not mutally exclusive. I love these seemingly random yet distinct choices made by directors and production designers. They are singing. Minor detail maybe, but not sure if that doesnt change the meaning of the next bit somewhat? It was just how it was. I have one comment / correction on what you wrote on Henriettes death scene. then goes into the bedchamber. And for those who love her. Philippe replies ominously: we are all of us in sickness here. But, this is my interpretation or thoughts based on the real life events. It is one or the other. Philippe replies calmly: You acted out of pride. Thank you. I knew hed say that line! Is Philippe a victim? As she made her last confession, the English ambassador, Lord Montagu, asked Henriette if she believed she had been poisoned. But your first strike would have to be true. Gladly. Louis is disbelieving: And sacrifice your future to see me suffer? Philippe glances around the salon then says: What does a King know of sacrifice?, Louis cant believe it. Cats with nine lives. This moment echoes the first from the opening scene in Episode One, where the traitors rush in on the pretext of getting Louis safely away. Just another way Louis is emasculating him, making him a laughing stock in French society. And suddenly Marchal has his ah-HA moment. And Louis weeps. It is so interesting to watch, given a discussion I had on Twitter earlier with some fellow fans. And there is also Dangerous Liaisons, but that is set in the 18th century. Speculation that Henriette had been poisoned began straight away. Louis is a shit to Philippe. she was the one who found it, actually. Louvois has been a kind of double agent all along, directed by Louis himself to assume the role of critic and conspirator. I also cannot figure out why Louis and others speak freely in front of the guards when even they are unsure of their loyalty.. She rises and silently leaves, then more people walk in to pay their respects the Chevalier included. Apparently de Clermont gave Marchal the names of the conspirators against the king, and all the names of those who shared her allegiance. Such an angry outpouring from Louis, however, would have been out of character and no one else reported that he said any such thing. He was shut out of his mothers (Anne of Austria) last moments, while Philippe was in attendance, where, despite her appalling treatment of her second son, he openly wept and grieved. Its just that his anger and upset (and yes, jealousy I think) affects him so much, because its just another way for his brother to control and belittle him, make him less. Hi, Claudine Masson Fabien Marchal Henriette of England Henriette and Montespan Fabien and Sophie Isabella Braganza Claudine and Fabien Marie-Thrse and Montespan Versailles (series) Sophie de Clermont Philippe of France Henriette and Louis Philippe and Liselotte's Wedding Chevalier and Henriette Categories And even if not, we see what Philippe is capable of when hes in a jealous snit. Henriette, Duchesse dOrlans, the sister-in-law of Louis XIV, took a drink of her usual chicory water and immediately clutched her side, crying out in pain. We see him silent and sombre, a blank expression on his face. Philippe adds: .or two, perhaps. And he strides off. So that would perhaps put affair-with-sister-in-law a half tick closer to pardonable than homosexuality, which is wholly and completely condemned in the bible. and especially when he proved himself in battle and all of Paris cheered him and adored him. Henriette answered Montagu with a shrug: she did not know. You mentioned the Charles Beaubrun painting of Louis & Philippewell I was noticing how this stunning piece travels around the palace in season one. Remember, Henriette, as a woman, is completely powerless. Im merely suggesting you might save some time. Marchal persists, pointing out that Louvois always disagrees frequently and loudly with the Kings decisions. Therefore, my thoughts are strictly about the characters. Im going to be stalking these recaps in the arduous wait for season two. Sad to hear well have to wait a year for the next season Are there similar shows to this you could recommend? And poor Philippe, who is distraught about his wife, its just another snub for him, isnt it? In the early hours of 30 June, she died. (its only 16mins and 50 seconds in not that I was counting *innocent whistle*) Filmed in the Chteau de Maisons in Maisons-Lafitte, in the Salon dHercule, he strides past Montcourt, demands to know what he is doing. I could never love you morewell. And Philippe replies gently: You did the best you could. Tears now from Henriette: how handsome you both are. And now we are in the last throes of her last moments it hurts and she cannot breathe, they move the pillow. Even Louis at this stage is getting sick of it and announces he is going to war. Cassel passes him and bows. When she travelled to England, she was excited at the prospect of seeing her brother, Charles, again. In one of the episodes did we see Clermont messing with the doctors box of bottles.. We see Louis expression crumple, and he blinks, almost disbelievingly, and then Philippe is out the door. They had children. As to it appearing that it seems like it almost never happened. And if you reread my words very carefully, you might realise that I never once touched on the legality of it. In Ep 3, I believe this is the first time we see the painting, it is in Louiss chambers, to the left of the fireplace on an easel on the floor. Thank you, Amy! Close the doors! The Queen adds: we must put her in the bed. Louis nods; in she goes. Philippe had a relationship with the man he loved while Henriette continued to sleep with the man she loved. Also it will set Louis in a collision with Phillipe who did not want his wife to go to England for the negotiations. Inside Versailles Henriette Sister of King Charles II of England, Henriette - known as Madame - is the wife of Philippe and the mistress of King Louis. His grip tightens on the poker, even as Montcourt looks actually shocked at that accusation. Shes genuinely quite sweet, but tenacious something Im sure our Head of Security will appreciate). God knows the wolves might have taken us but what did we know? *insert sound of breaking heart here*. I realise a woman was expected to stay faithful to her husband even while it was acceptable for him to have mistresess (ha! The camera hovers over the prone Henriette then pans up from the bed, like we are her soul being released from her body. Unfortunately, Louis paranoia and selfishness blind him to this. Some were obviously written for massive impact. Vatel (with Uma Thurman and Gerard Depardieu). Yes, it was the thinking of that time but wouldnt that make her a victim of circumstances, rather to be pitied than villified? We see Louis take what is rightfully and lawfully his his wife. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. 1556332. ? The only protection offered is by Louis. There could have been some anger involved without resorting to rape. Now that *would* be naive. The first time we see Philippe is with his lover. He expressed his doubts to the grief-stricken Charles II, who earnestly believed that his sister had been murdered. She is later arrested as the poisoner as her son is released, but ridiculed from court. I just wanna smash his smug ferret face. Season Two Mike and the last of Rohans men are massacred in a last stand by the musketeers, led by Fabien Marchal. Quite a few. Despite being a dab hand at treating people who have been poisoned, the doc announces that she . But Montespan kind of brushes it off with, Yes, I would do the same. She is hurt, nonetheless. Or because she cant look him in the eye and admit it? I just discovered Versailles this week and watched it in quick succession!!! I am a true friend of the king. but Louis knows. *IMAGERY KLAXON*, Next scene Marchal is riding furiously through the forest , no mood music, no sound, and he then bursts into Rohans rooms with guards, only to find the servant Marie on the floor, her wrist slashed with a knife. This is who they truly are in this one moment of grief. he is troubled, hearing Montcourts whispers in his head: When we are the kings enemy, we must make him believe we are his friend. and so on. I know this coming years later, but to Theresa THANK YOU SO MUCH. his majesty knew this day would come. Feel free to comment if any details are wrong. (since you mention here she is his love). Hi Theresa, and thanks for your comment. They walk into a salon, where Montcourt is playing cards, and everyone suddenly stops talking when Marchal meets the mans eye. Queen Marie-Thrse noted that everyone was talking about Henriettes death and the manner of it. At least there is a modicum of decorum. A side-note: On Sophie. Cassel leaves, then Montcourt walks away in the direction of Rohan who is discussing the Dauphins outing with a guard. Absolutely enjoyed your recap of the finale. you wanted to make it your castle. apparently it is still not safe. Wow that was odd. Both felt neglected by the other. Earlier that day, a servant spotted one of Philippes mignons and Grand Equerry (Master of the Horse), the Marquis dEffiat, drink water stored in a cabinet near Henriettes chambers, wipe the glass, then go on his way. Art. *Another side-note: When the Chavelier mentions that Louis does not look for beauty so much as character, umwas he talking about Henriette? Excellent. I cant always catch what is being said, particularly if it an aside or a whisper but I know you will tell me . Louis and Philippe approach the bed, to the dying Henriette who looks really bad. ! Louis is stunned: Why are you casting all this rage at me? Philippe: Because you deserve it. Point 7: Chevalier moves in on Henriette the moment her husbands back is turned. No doubt those in Philippes camp played on that too, to taint Henriette even more (Guiche UGH. Philippe loves and is loyal to his brother and only wants Louis to allow him to support him. Yes, it was common to talk about marriage that soon! Even if I ignore the historical figures behind the show and what I know of their real lives, I cant ignore the historical setting or the social arena in which the show is played. He genuinely believes Philppe is a potential threat. Louis: you are grieving. Philippe shakes his head: I grieve alone. Louis swallows then says: You will marry again. Philippe interjects: I simply want to live. Louis: It is your duty. Philippe hisses: I have had my fill of duty. Another possibility is that Henriette suffered from anorexia nervosa, which is often characterised by increasing frailty and hyperactivity; the summer of 1670 had been particularly hot and Henriette would swim in the river; unable to sleep, she walked in the gardens at night. Still with the playing of games, the half-truth words. I must be poisoned! so Philippe ordered her dog to be fed the water. But lets compare: Henriette is jealous. Philippe and Henriette are quite possibly the two people Louis loves most, and yet he uses and hurts them both repeatedly to get what he wants and because he is paranoid about his brother. Philippe was the one in strident dissent! Duchess Henriette becomes suddenly ill when she returns from a visit to her brother in England. Cultural factors, too, played a part. thank you.. Her mother (a french princess) is dead, and shes alone, probably the only English in the palace. Nor can I hold her responsible for the fact that Louis uses her as a weapon against his brother. , Question, did real Louis also love Henriette, or was it unrequited? She cant honestly say that the death of the man to whom she is shackled in a loveless marriage, who feels no attraction for her and never can but can easily enough rape her, who stands between her and the man she truly loveswouldnt be entirely unwelcome. Henriette wasnt asking the king to hire a hit on Philippe. Exactly. There was no indication of poisoning, so death was attributed to cholera morbus caused by corrupt and boiling bile, which had led to gangrene in the entrails and other parts of the lower abdomen. Such a beautiful moment, with Philippe building on their complex relationship, reminding Louis of a more simplistic time. Yes, absolutely. And dragging Effiat into it too, for a) being a mignon loyal to the Chevalier, and b) his familys involvement in the Fronde, during Louis XIIIs reign. Ive found some interesting, unedited sources about him and I hope to write very soon a book to make some justice to this very, very mistreated character. Keeps your brothers power in check and offers a direct connection to England. And in the context of the show, I did find it a nice touch, the apology to him. UGH, Henriette. Guilt often manifests itself in an outward show of rage. He certainly is darker, more angry and violent than he was in real life. Sometimes, truth is stranger than fiction - and other times, period dramas take a little artistic license . He is always the king, while Philippe gives his emotions (somewhat) free rein. Philippe is no more vulnerable to the hurt and damage done to him than she is to the hurt and damage done to her, simply because he is a man with rights and she is a woman with no rights. HOW DID THEY DO THAT SO PERFECTLY??? Everyone shares a look because, yeah, they know. Bontemps is a little freaked: Th-this is highly irregular, your Majesty. But the IDGAF expression on the Queens face is priceless. We establish right from the start that she has no powershe was forced to marry a man she did not want because the king wants to keep her close. He had mistresses, for example. How do we find the poisoner? These scenes are odd for me to watch, but by now, I have totally put aside any frustration when the show deviates from what I know of the actual history. So how could you be scared? for all of these. They could be far away from the victim at the time of death, so it would be difficult to definitively pin on anyone. The French musical Le Roi Soleil is always great to watch. I have some questions. Anything Henriette had done to Philippe, he had done to herand worse. Anne, Hi Jules haha that last message should have ended (I agree with you on all POINTS) not pints . Marchal commands to clear the room, Louis adds: Not you, Montcourt. and the doors are sealed: no one enters. Plus he told Louis he didnt recognise the sender of the notes which is technically true. THIS. Lovely. Are there more shows you will review? A yellow Spanish topaz, buried in the mud. So Louis settles into sleep. A begrudging father/daughter mentor role, and she eventually warms him up a bit? Required fields are marked *. She was 26. Your closest confidants told you to look elsewhere! Get Marchal pissed at you. the kiss between the Chevalier and Philippe happens after the war, after Philippe has seen Louis bring Henriette to the front. He rapes his wife. We could never invade the entire world but the world can imagine us as their centre. This was served to Henriette by her unsuspecting maid. (For the record, I am speaking strictly of the characters in this drama, not the historical characters). UHGGH. Her intent is not to hurt Philippe by sleeping with Louis, she simply doesnt care (and I dont blame her). Now she is in a marriage that will never give her any joy with a man she does not love and she should risk displeasing her lover, the king, by rejecting him? Pale and in obvious distress, she was put to bed, but her pains were so severe that she believed she must have been poisoned and asked for an antidote. Just because the thinking of the day viewed a woman as mere property and not a person in her own right does not mean she isnt a human being with the same feelings and needs as any other. Noemie Schmidt: Yes, totally stuck. At the time of his birth, his parents had been married for 23 years. Philippe strides in slow-mo through the corridors, arms swinging, hair bouncing, coat swaying and with a tight, determined expression on his face. They grew up knowing what their duty was as prince and princess. New episodes of " Versailles " air at 10/9c Saturdays on Ovation, but are rebroadcast throughout the week. Would you villify a slave because he hated his master or ran away simply because slavery was accepted at that time and slaves (much like women, little difference there) were considered nothing more than the property of their masters to do with as they please (again, just as a woman was to her husband)? But unlike Philippe, Henriette never snogged her lover obnoxiously right there in the same room with him. Also, his relationship with his brother was much less complicated than we see in this show, Philippe was a very simple person when it came to feelings, he was affectionate and friendly. By this stage both Henriette and Marie Thrse of Spain now knew what it felt like to be jilted and cast aside in your loved ones affections by another attractive court lady. What to expect from the future? ), I think your recaps are wonderful and I enjoy reading them every bit as much as I do watching the programme! The steps, the swinging of the arms, the movement of the coat and their cravats. And the next shot is Louis in slow-mo, walking out. He gets up and leaves, walking through the corridors with a candelabra. Point 9: And again, who can blame her. However, the bible does say something about a man being expected to marry his brothers widow. I was highly frustrated with the artistic liberties the authors took, and some just pretty much made up shit, totally contrary to history . Then he calls for the Guards. Rohan grabs her by the throat, saying it is not yet clear to him what she has done to earn her money, then demands she clean his room before leaving. Again, so so love your words. Only 4 of his children grew up, and even then, another died at 27. Henriette says a glorious death in battle would not displease him. So anyways, off we go. Protocol demands that he stays, Philippe says tightly. . Seizing upon Henriettes dying reproach of Philippe, he asserted that she had been the victim of a plot orchestrated by Lorraine, who held Henriette responsible for his exile and sought revenge. But that was the thinking of the time. You said everything that should have been pointed out a long time ago, with counterpoints and parallels that shone a light on some arguments and favoritism that , within the context of the show not history, were just mind boggling. Called it!) Only a year or so to go until a new season arrived on fledgling network Ovation, its U.S. cable home. After all, everything she did was unacceptable at that time for women and it was certainly acceptable to beat a woman, especially if she was a wife, sister or daughter. I love this show <3. Aaaaaand there we have the end of the episode and the end of Season One. You, me, Henriette. Stars: George Blagden, Alexander Vlahos, Tygh Runyan Director(s . What about the angels? he asks, after Montcourt nervously says hes been praying for Henriette. Two steps behind him, as protocol dictates, is the Chevalier. And Montespan was married too, so in the eyes of the church that was double adultery. (Historical note: this happened and wasnt at all odd) The door suddenly opens, the Queenis standing there. There is your music.. Now, seeing as sister-in-law wasnt even a thing then, this would be like actually shagging your sister. We see a lovely shot of Versailles outside, then cut to the Kings bedchamber, where the flowers and hedges are neatly arranged around to the bed. I especially like the pairing of her and Marchal. While it seems like shes being unfair to Philippe, he doesnt really put up an effort to make himself lovable most of the time. This is Louis in control, in power, and he delivers a malevolent, threatening banter that is fabulous to see. So many questions.. let me see: did Fabien Marshal shoot Charlotte Parthanay, and if so, why? Henriette has become seriously ill, it might be poison and she is the sister of the King of England. Henriette feels nothing for Philippe, he not having put any more effort into endearing himself to her than she to him and he also complicating things for her where Louis is concerned. I thought so but no. Revealing nothing. She is currently working on a biography of Louis XIV. Did not see this one coming! Versailles - Stagione 3 Episodio 10. And she was having an affair with the Comte de Guiche. They fear she might have been poisoned, so King Louis XIV shuts all access To Versailles. Obviously he loves Chevalier. Is he for or against le roi? I just found out your site and I must congratulate you for your beautifully written reviews. They fear she might have been poisoned, so King Louis XIV shuts all access To Versailles. Philippe looks up to Louis with wet puppy eyes, Louis looks at Philippe, his all flinty and hard. Jacques 10 episodes, 2015 . One witness observed that Henriette looked like a dressed corpse upon whom someone had put some rouge, while others thought she had death painted on her face. He takes her hand and closes his eyes and for a moment he is vulnerable. Louis is calm but angry: then you set yourself against me. Philippe pauses, looks incredibly sad for a moment, then briefly nods. So Louis sequesters the palace. What a pain! Eww. Montcourt pauses its clear he recognises Rohans voice. Gaston de Foix was arrested and tortured as the potential poisoner by Fabien. First to Henriette, and after she was poisoned, to Elizabeth Charlotte, Princess of the Palatinate. Anne. I am really liking Sophies growth as a character, who is, of course, beautiful, but with attitude and a strong backbone, as we are now seeing. Is she a villain for this because of the thinking of the day? Similarly, perforation of the gall bladder may have led to an excess of bile leaking into the peritoneum causing the corruption and gangrene reported by her doctors. The Chevalier looks a little panicky or is it my imagination? Why should we fault Henriette for not ending her incestuous relationship with her brother-in-law, the king, but Philippe can be forgiven for continuing his homosexual relationship with the Chevalier? We are NOT touching her! Philippe finally says. He tucks Louis in then gets into his small cot (that looks like a camping bed), fully clothed. Philippe and Henriette were forced into a marriage with someone they didnt love or care for. Right. the first time we see Henriette is with Louis, and Louis mentions her husband. and Nine. And Philippe says calmly and quietly: There. Marchal is surprised but pleased: attracting the flies to the paper. You are both the angels at my shoulder, says Louis, which reminds Marchal of the Parthenays and Montcourt. I enjoyed them very much, I must saymuch more than this series, which is good entertainement, but, God, so FAR from being historically correct, in so many ways. The death of someone so young was often attributed to poison. Do you believe these women feel less pain and violation because the behaviour is condoned by the society in which they live? NOOOOOOO. Ah, but not so devout that Louis followed all the teachings. Henriette. See production, box office & company info. And then down by the promontory. I think he also wants reassurance that Louis cares for him as much as he cares for Louis. They take her hands. Such emotion. And what better way to keep Louis safe than have his Head of Security plant one of his spies in his bed? Yes, of course its common knowledge that Louis is shagging Henriette. needless to say, all my writing is copyright to me, so don't be a dick and steal it. I also read your discussion between yourself and Teresa about episode 10. And Philippe is the one who looks tortured, he is the emotional one, while Louis remains stoic. we then learn Henriette is Philippes wife. For the record, I dont think Henriette would actually like to see Philippe die, but she would like to be shot of him. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Like only a brother can. Philippelooks into the fire, whispers, I was so proud of you. Her cheeriness disguised the fact that she was unwell. No wonder Philippe feels the need to claim what is his. The fact that she doesnt particularly want to anyway (to say no, that is) is because she is deeply in love with Louis and always has been and because her husband makes zero effort to endear himself to her. (Same with the Chevalier and his jealousy of Philippes wives. Louis XIV was born on 5 September 1638 in the Chteau de Saint-Germain-en-Laye, to Louis XIII and Anne of Austria. Thank you all! YAAAAAY! P.S. UGH D:. And it is on. Claudine then enters and grills Bontemps, the Queen and Philippe about the symptoms while Henriette gasps in pain on the bed. Totally inappropriate time to mention it. They fear she might have been poisoned, so King Louis XIV shuts all access To Versailles. BRILLIANT acting. Slavery was also an accepted practice of the day. There are only two men in this court who move freely between the outside world and the Kings inner circle, but only one who has never raised a single voice against him. Bontemps is surprised: the Kings brother? NO, BONTEMPS. And also shout out to Hannah for being a a much needed third voice. I think he has done his younger brother irreperable harm and, at times, I wonder if he wouldnt throw Philippe to the wolves if it suited him or France. We must get the king and the queen and yourself to safety at once. And the penny drops for Bontemps, his look of dismay so clear.

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